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Que tal compañeros , necesito de su ayuda , un compa me esta ofreciendo una escopeta superpuesta marca VALMET modelo 142 .20g, la verdad no tengo referencias de esta marca y en internet no eh encontrado informacion que me sirva , alguno tiene una opinion que compartir , de antemano gracias por la atencion compañeros , saludos.
 
SI MAL NO RECUERDO ESAS ESCOPETAS SON FINLANDESAS CREO QUE DE BUENA CALIDAD Y CREO QUE VIENEN EN COMBO DE ESCOPETA CON RIFLE AQUI HAY ALGO DE INFORMACION

Valmet Weapons History

Reprinted Duncan Long’s “AK47 The Complete Kalashnikov Family of Assault Rifles” published in 1988 (before Valmet stopped making the Valmet line of rifles):

Because of pressure from the USSR following World War II, the allies required Finland to dismantle its arms industry. This ban continued until the late 1950s; at that time, Finland started work on a modified AK47. A government owned combine, Valmet, was created to do the development and production of the new rifle.

Between 1958 and 1960, a number of Kalashnikov based experimental rifles were chosen for field tests by the Finnish army; these were designated the M60 rifles. The two models differed most markedly in their triggers; one had a trigger guard and winter trigger while the other lacked a trigger guard of any sort. (Other differences were in flash hiders, bayonet mounts and etc.)

By 1962 a version of one of the rifles was adopted. Designated the Ryannakkokivaari Malli 62 (or M62), it was found in two models, the standard stock M62 and the folding stock M62T.

One of the most distinctive features of the Valmet rifles, including the M62 and all subsequent variations, is the open-ended, three prong flash suppressor with a bayonet lug on its lower side. In addition to the flash suppression, the end can quickly cut barbed wire by pushing the muzzle onto a strand of wire and firing a round - noisy but effective.

Full scale production of the M62 started in 1965; most of the work was done by Valmet, although the Finnish SAKO plant handled some of the extra capacity which Valmet couldn’t handle due to the large number of rifles needed by the military. The basic M62 military rifle was modified slightly in 1969 with flip-up luminous dot sights added for nighttime use, these in turn were replaced with tritium night sights in 1972. Other minor changes have included a better shaped pistol grip and a strengthened stock.

In 1976, the M62-76 was fielded. This stamped steel receiver rifle is similar in concept to the Soviet AKM. Three models were created: the wooden stock M62-76P, the plastic stock M62-76M, and the M62-76T with a metal tubular stock which folds to the left of the receiver. As on subsequent Valmet rifles, a sheet-metal stamping protects the magazine release from accidental engagement in heavy brush.

Several variations of the M62-76 are made for export; Valmet designates these as the M71 series. The M71 series has the sheet-metal receiver of the M62-76 rifles but slightly different furniture; the firearms are offered in both .223 Remington and 7.62x39mm. Strangely enough, the rear sight position varies on these models; on some, the sight is placed just in front and above the receiver on the barrel, while on others it is mounted at the rear of the receiver cover (which is usually fitted tightly to prevent the zero from drifting). The receiver cover mounting of the rear sight gives a much better sight picture. A semi-auto version of the M71 was developed for U.S. civilian sales; it was designated the M71S.

In 1976, the M76 family of rifles was created for the export market; the firearms are offered in both selective-fire versions (for the military buyers) and the semi-auto only (for civilian sales). The M76 rifles are offered in 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington , Soviet 7.62x39 and .308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO, and are quite similar in layout to the M71 family. A welcome change in the M76 series is the moving of the rear sight to the receiver cover on all models; this reversible rear sight gives the shooter a choice of either a peephole (for a faster sight picture) or a square notch. The M76 rifles also have a reshaped fore-end and pistol grip; these are closer to the conventional Kalashnikov shapes and are readily distinguished from the conical fore-ends and round ribbed pistol grips of the early M62-76 and the M71 firearms.

Valmet added a LMG (light machine gun), the M78, to its export offerings in 1978. In 1982, a rather futuristic bullpup design was added to the lineup as the M82, though it now appears to be discontinued. In 1983, a slightly modified version of the M78, the M78/83S, was offered as a sniper rifle (it, too, appears to be discontinued). The principle difference between this weapon and the M78 was its Dragunov-style stock.

Like the Finnish military rifles, the export models have three styles of stocks. The “T” in an M76 rifle’s designation stands for tubular stock; “F”, for folding stock; “W”, for wood stock; and “P”, for plastic stock. A version of each of the following rifles is offered in either .223 or 7.62x39mm: the M82 Bullpup rifle; the M76F, T, W and P rifles; the M78/83S sniper rifle (with scope mount and plastic stock); and the M78 LMG (more or less the Finnish equivalent of the RPK). The M78 LMG and the M78/83S are also chambered in .308 Winchester/7.76mm NATO chambering.

The M82’s bullpup design would appear to be the next stage in the development of the Kalashnikov rifles, but its poor sales would suggest that the demand for such a rifle may not be too great. Too, rumors continue to circulate about bullpups firing rounds prematurely or exploding from barrel obstructions; since the bullpup shooter’s face is very close to where the action is in such an occurrence, severe injury would likely result. These rumors may have hurt sales. No actual cases of such blowups were discovered while researching this book. The semi auto M82 bullpups seem to have their following in the United States; their design may still prove to be the wave of the future.

The M82 bullpup was created by placing a one piece plastic stock over a standard M76 rifle with an abbreviated trigger group. A rod inside the stock connects the forward trigger to the rifles trigger group. The stock is enlarged on the left side for the shooter’s cheek and the sights are canted to the left as well. This keeps the shooter’s from using a left handed hold, since the reciprocating bolt would be dangerous if held in that manner.

The 1980s also saw the introduction of the Valmet Hunter, which is a Kalashnikov rifle in hunting garb with a checkered wooden hunting stock and a wooden fore grip which encloses the gas tube and the barrel below it. Although the Hunter still has a bit of military look to it, it is a rather attractive firearm; the lower than usual barrel makes follow-up shots quicker than with most hunting rifles. The rifle is available in .243, .223 and .308 chambering, making it ideal for many hunting purposes. Limited-capacity magazines are also available for use in hunting. Like other Valmet Kalashnikov rifles, the Hunter comes with an optional ejection buffer for reloaders.

Though the field stripping of the Hunter is nearly identical to that of other Kalashnikov rifles, it is necessary to first remove the retaining screw at the rear of the receiver cover.

The choice of three different chamberings and the excellent finish of the Valmet firearms set them above the standard Kalashnikovs. The rifles are every bit as reliable as other versions of the Kalashnikov and often a bit more accurate; only the Galil rifles rival them in this area.

In 1988, the American-based arm of Valmet, Inc., was closed. Valmet rifles imported into the United States are now handled by Stoeger Industries.


Another history narrative:

In the 1950's the Finnish military recognized the need for a new military assault rifle. The Finns decided to adopt and modify some of existing designs of the proven Soviet AK-47. Finnland bought the license for original AK-47 design (with milled receiver), and first prototypes of the future Finnish assault rifle named Rk.60. They were submitted for military testing in 1960. The Rk.60, being internally almost a copy of the AK-47, showed some external differences. It had tubular metallic buttstock, plastic handguard that did not cover the gas tube, plastic pistol grip. The Rk.60 lacked the trigger guard and has three prong flash hider at the muzzle. The original sights were replaced with hooded post front sight atop of the gas chamber, the tangent rear sight was replaced by an aperture sight, mounted at the rear of the receiver cover. Both front and night sights had folding "night sights", with the white dots.

After the testing and following modifications, that include new, slightly redesigned handguards and restoration of the trigger guard, the rifle was adopted as the Rk.62, and, until now, is in Finnish military service.

During the following years, the state-owned Valmet company, the manufacturer of the Rk.62, designed some further modifications, some of which were adopted for Finnish military service and acquired by Finnish Army, and some being manufactured for export only. The export versions were manufactured in original 7.62x39mm chamberings or in .223 Remington (5.56mm NATO), select-fire or semi-auto only. Some semi-auto variants, named Valmet 78, were manufactured in 7.62x51mm (.308Win).

Of the military wersions, most interesting are Rk.76 and Rk.95TP. The Rk.76 is a modification of the original Rk.62, but with the stamped steel receiver instead of the milled one. This dramatically decreased the weight of the gun. Other changes were four different types of the buttstocks available: the 76W featured wooden fixed buttstock, the 76P fetaured plastic fixed buttstock, 76T featured tubular fixed buttstock (like the Rk.62) and 76TP featured tubular side-folding buttstok. Another change from Rk.62 was handguard, that was more Ak-47-style than of Rk.62.

The Rk.95TP is the latest variation of the Finnish military rifles. It featured old-style milled receiver, but new, side-folding skeleton-type buttstock (Galil type), new muzzle flash hider and new handguards. The triggerguard is enlarged to enable shooting in gloves during the cold Finnish winters. It should be noted that Rk.95TP is referred as Sako Rk.75, not the Valmet Rk.95, because the Sako company (involved in production of the Rk.62 and further modifications almost from the start) was merged with the Valmet company under the name Sako. The Rk.95TP was received by Finnish Army in small quantities (only one batch manufactured). The semi-auto version of the Rk.95 is used for civilian training and practical shooting (under IPSC rules), as well as sold for export. The Rk.95 may be equipped with Finnish-made Reflex sound suppressor.

In general, all Sako / Valmet Rk.62 family weapons are first class quality firearms that designed to withstand extreme environmental conditions of the Nordic Europe. It is also should be noted that early Israeli made Galil assaul rifles were made on macinery and by documentation, bought from Valmet.

At Valmet, a new AK-47-based semi-auto hunting rifle was developed that was imported by Valmet, USA, along with Valmet's over-under guns, while Odin Int'l, Ltd., in Alexandria, Va., imported Valmet's M82 Bullpup and models M76 and M78 semi-auto rifles.

Odin disappeared from the scene in 1987, and a new importer, Bumble Bee Wholesale of North Hollywood, Calif., took over bringing in Valmet's M82 Bullpup, M78 and M76 Standard rifle. The M76 Carbine went over to Valmet, USA.

That brings us to Valmet. "What ever happened to Valmet?" is a question I hear more frequently than one would expect. Valmet is still alive and well within Metso, but makes machinery used in converting wood pulp into paper.
 
Hola

Companero

Tulku

Sakp obsorvio a Valmet en 1986 y ambas forman parte de industrias Pietro Beretta, Valmet fabrica la mejor AK-47, las escopetas Valmet son de excelente calidad, yo de "P" anos atrás vendi una escopeta sobrepuesta modelo 32 basada en la escopeta de Remington modelo 32, Valmet por igual le fabrico sus escopetas a Savage.

Cuidate

Tito
 
SI MAL NO RECUERDO ESAS ESCOPETAS SON FINLANDESAS CREO QUE DE BUENA CALIDAD Y CREO QUE VIENEN EN COMBO DE ESCOPETA CON RIFLE AQUI HAY ALGO DE INFORMACION

Valmet Weapons History

Reprinted Duncan Long’s “AK47 The Complete Kalashnikov Family of Assault Rifles” published in 1988 (before Valmet stopped making the Valmet line of rifles):

Because of pressure from the USSR following World War II, the allies required Finland to dismantle its arms industry. This ban continued until the late 1950s; at that time, Finland started work on a modified AK47. A government owned combine, Valmet, was created to do the development and production of the new rifle.

Between 1958 and 1960, a number of Kalashnikov based experimental rifles were chosen for field tests by the Finnish army; these were designated the M60 rifles. The two models differed most markedly in their triggers; one had a trigger guard and winter trigger while the other lacked a trigger guard of any sort. (Other differences were in flash hiders, bayonet mounts and etc.)

By 1962 a version of one of the rifles was adopted. Designated the Ryannakkokivaari Malli 62 (or M62), it was found in two models, the standard stock M62 and the folding stock M62T.

One of the most distinctive features of the Valmet rifles, including the M62 and all subsequent variations, is the open-ended, three prong flash suppressor with a bayonet lug on its lower side. In addition to the flash suppression, the end can quickly cut barbed wire by pushing the muzzle onto a strand of wire and firing a round - noisy but effective.

Full scale production of the M62 started in 1965; most of the work was done by Valmet, although the Finnish SAKO plant handled some of the extra capacity which Valmet couldn’t handle due to the large number of rifles needed by the military. The basic M62 military rifle was modified slightly in 1969 with flip-up luminous dot sights added for nighttime use, these in turn were replaced with tritium night sights in 1972. Other minor changes have included a better shaped pistol grip and a strengthened stock.

In 1976, the M62-76 was fielded. This stamped steel receiver rifle is similar in concept to the Soviet AKM. Three models were created: the wooden stock M62-76P, the plastic stock M62-76M, and the M62-76T with a metal tubular stock which folds to the left of the receiver. As on subsequent Valmet rifles, a sheet-metal stamping protects the magazine release from accidental engagement in heavy brush.

Several variations of the M62-76 are made for export; Valmet designates these as the M71 series. The M71 series has the sheet-metal receiver of the M62-76 rifles but slightly different furniture; the firearms are offered in both .223 Remington and 7.62x39mm. Strangely enough, the rear sight position varies on these models; on some, the sight is placed just in front and above the receiver on the barrel, while on others it is mounted at the rear of the receiver cover (which is usually fitted tightly to prevent the zero from drifting). The receiver cover mounting of the rear sight gives a much better sight picture. A semi-auto version of the M71 was developed for U.S. civilian sales; it was designated the M71S.

In 1976, the M76 family of rifles was created for the export market; the firearms are offered in both selective-fire versions (for the military buyers) and the semi-auto only (for civilian sales). The M76 rifles are offered in 5.56mm NATO/.223 Remington , Soviet 7.62x39 and .308 Winchester/7.62mm NATO, and are quite similar in layout to the M71 family. A welcome change in the M76 series is the moving of the rear sight to the receiver cover on all models; this reversible rear sight gives the shooter a choice of either a peephole (for a faster sight picture) or a square notch. The M76 rifles also have a reshaped fore-end and pistol grip; these are closer to the conventional Kalashnikov shapes and are readily distinguished from the conical fore-ends and round ribbed pistol grips of the early M62-76 and the M71 firearms.

Valmet added a LMG (light machine gun), the M78, to its export offerings in 1978. In 1982, a rather futuristic bullpup design was added to the lineup as the M82, though it now appears to be discontinued. In 1983, a slightly modified version of the M78, the M78/83S, was offered as a sniper rifle (it, too, appears to be discontinued). The principle difference between this weapon and the M78 was its Dragunov-style stock.

Like the Finnish military rifles, the export models have three styles of stocks. The “T” in an M76 rifle’s designation stands for tubular stock; “F”, for folding stock; “W”, for wood stock; and “P”, for plastic stock. A version of each of the following rifles is offered in either .223 or 7.62x39mm: the M82 Bullpup rifle; the M76F, T, W and P rifles; the M78/83S sniper rifle (with scope mount and plastic stock); and the M78 LMG (more or less the Finnish equivalent of the RPK). The M78 LMG and the M78/83S are also chambered in .308 Winchester/7.76mm NATO chambering.

The M82’s bullpup design would appear to be the next stage in the development of the Kalashnikov rifles, but its poor sales would suggest that the demand for such a rifle may not be too great. Too, rumors continue to circulate about bullpups firing rounds prematurely or exploding from barrel obstructions; since the bullpup shooter’s face is very close to where the action is in such an occurrence, severe injury would likely result. These rumors may have hurt sales. No actual cases of such blowups were discovered while researching this book. The semi auto M82 bullpups seem to have their following in the United States; their design may still prove to be the wave of the future.

The M82 bullpup was created by placing a one piece plastic stock over a standard M76 rifle with an abbreviated trigger group. A rod inside the stock connects the forward trigger to the rifles trigger group. The stock is enlarged on the left side for the shooter’s cheek and the sights are canted to the left as well. This keeps the shooter’s from using a left handed hold, since the reciprocating bolt would be dangerous if held in that manner.

The 1980s also saw the introduction of the Valmet Hunter, which is a Kalashnikov rifle in hunting garb with a checkered wooden hunting stock and a wooden fore grip which encloses the gas tube and the barrel below it. Although the Hunter still has a bit of military look to it, it is a rather attractive firearm; the lower than usual barrel makes follow-up shots quicker than with most hunting rifles. The rifle is available in .243, .223 and .308 chambering, making it ideal for many hunting purposes. Limited-capacity magazines are also available for use in hunting. Like other Valmet Kalashnikov rifles, the Hunter comes with an optional ejection buffer for reloaders.

Though the field stripping of the Hunter is nearly identical to that of other Kalashnikov rifles, it is necessary to first remove the retaining screw at the rear of the receiver cover.

The choice of three different chamberings and the excellent finish of the Valmet firearms set them above the standard Kalashnikovs. The rifles are every bit as reliable as other versions of the Kalashnikov and often a bit more accurate; only the Galil rifles rival them in this area.

In 1988, the American-based arm of Valmet, Inc., was closed. Valmet rifles imported into the United States are now handled by Stoeger Industries.


Another history narrative:

In the 1950's the Finnish military recognized the need for a new military assault rifle. The Finns decided to adopt and modify some of existing designs of the proven Soviet AK-47. Finnland bought the license for original AK-47 design (with milled receiver), and first prototypes of the future Finnish assault rifle named Rk.60. They were submitted for military testing in 1960. The Rk.60, being internally almost a copy of the AK-47, showed some external differences. It had tubular metallic buttstock, plastic handguard that did not cover the gas tube, plastic pistol grip. The Rk.60 lacked the trigger guard and has three prong flash hider at the muzzle. The original sights were replaced with hooded post front sight atop of the gas chamber, the tangent rear sight was replaced by an aperture sight, mounted at the rear of the receiver cover. Both front and night sights had folding "night sights", with the white dots.

After the testing and following modifications, that include new, slightly redesigned handguards and restoration of the trigger guard, the rifle was adopted as the Rk.62, and, until now, is in Finnish military service.

During the following years, the state-owned Valmet company, the manufacturer of the Rk.62, designed some further modifications, some of which were adopted for Finnish military service and acquired by Finnish Army, and some being manufactured for export only. The export versions were manufactured in original 7.62x39mm chamberings or in .223 Remington (5.56mm NATO), select-fire or semi-auto only. Some semi-auto variants, named Valmet 78, were manufactured in 7.62x51mm (.308Win).

Of the military wersions, most interesting are Rk.76 and Rk.95TP. The Rk.76 is a modification of the original Rk.62, but with the stamped steel receiver instead of the milled one. This dramatically decreased the weight of the gun. Other changes were four different types of the buttstocks available: the 76W featured wooden fixed buttstock, the 76P fetaured plastic fixed buttstock, 76T featured tubular fixed buttstock (like the Rk.62) and 76TP featured tubular side-folding buttstok. Another change from Rk.62 was handguard, that was more Ak-47-style than of Rk.62.

The Rk.95TP is the latest variation of the Finnish military rifles. It featured old-style milled receiver, but new, side-folding skeleton-type buttstock (Galil type), new muzzle flash hider and new handguards. The triggerguard is enlarged to enable shooting in gloves during the cold Finnish winters. It should be noted that Rk.95TP is referred as Sako Rk.75, not the Valmet Rk.95, because the Sako company (involved in production of the Rk.62 and further modifications almost from the start) was merged with the Valmet company under the name Sako. The Rk.95TP was received by Finnish Army in small quantities (only one batch manufactured). The semi-auto version of the Rk.95 is used for civilian training and practical shooting (under IPSC rules), as well as sold for export. The Rk.95 may be equipped with Finnish-made Reflex sound suppressor.

In general, all Sako / Valmet Rk.62 family weapons are first class quality firearms that designed to withstand extreme environmental conditions of the Nordic Europe. It is also should be noted that early Israeli made Galil assaul rifles were made on macinery and by documentation, bought from Valmet.

At Valmet, a new AK-47-based semi-auto hunting rifle was developed that was imported by Valmet, USA, along with Valmet's over-under guns, while Odin Int'l, Ltd., in Alexandria, Va., imported Valmet's M82 Bullpup and models M76 and M78 semi-auto rifles.

Odin disappeared from the scene in 1987, and a new importer, Bumble Bee Wholesale of North Hollywood, Calif., took over bringing in Valmet's M82 Bullpup, M78 and M76 Standard rifle. The M76 Carbine went over to Valmet, USA.

That brings us to Valmet. "What ever happened to Valmet?" is a question I hear more frequently than one would expect. Valmet is still alive and well within Metso, but makes machinery used in converting wood pulp into paper.

Hola

Companero

Tulku

Sakp obsorvio a Valmet en 1986 y ambas forman parte de industrias Pietro Beretta, Valmet fabrica la mejor AK-47, las escopetas Valmet son de excelente calidad, yo de "P" anos atrás vendi una escopeta sobrepuesta modelo 32 basada en la escopeta de Remington modelo 32, Valmet por igual le fabrico sus escopetas a Savage.

Cuidate

Tito


Muchas gracias compañeros por su atencion y aportes, justamente la informacion que encontre en internet es que VALMET hacia excelentes rifles de asalto , pero no habia encontrado nada respecto a las escopetas, ahora que lo menciona probablemente tome la oferta de la escopeta, saludos , que tengan excelente dia .
 
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